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Super :)
2009 Balandžio 30 13:08 Harleliuyah!!!
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#632    

Nu va,
Gal ir ne visai i tema, bet pasigirsiu....
Pereguliavus karba sanaudos pasikeite kardinaliai
Vaziuojant 110-130 uzmiestyje vidurkis 6.2
Vaziuojant mieste, įskaitant pasidraskymus 7,5-8.0

Buvai teisus Kryžiau :)
2009 Gegužės 3 09:48 Suum cuique
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#633    

Pigiau vazinet bus... :) o pareguliavus tai ka darei? Varzteli pasikinejai ar ziklerius keitei?
2009 Gegužės 3 11:29 Harleliuyah!!!
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Pigiau vazinet bus... :) o pareguliavus tai ka darei? Varzteli pasikinejai ar ziklerius keitei?


Ant stenduko chebra pasukinejo. Trauka truputi sumazejo, senesnej versijoj uzpyklinejo, ant aukstu buvo pats tas. Dabar ganetinai gera apacia ir vidutiniai sukiai.
2009 Gegužės 3 18:07 Suum cuique
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#635    

Jei ant stenduko tai kur kreive?
2009 Gegužės 4 09:11 Harleliuyah!!!
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#636    

Ne taip issireiskiau, stendukas - tai seno tipo TO irenginys :)
O ant stendo as pernai buves, reikes imest nuskenavus.
2009 Gegužės 4 10:52 Suum cuique
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Cia prasom keletas lasisku susirasinejimo su Jims USA

To: tech@jimsusa.com
Subject: Tappet question


Hello,
I've seen 3 types of hidraulic tappets in catalog.
Maybe you could give me info about all 3 types, what are the differences.
Also maybe you could recomend wich one of these tappets to use for
TC 96" upgraded to 113" (SE kit) to quiet down valve train as possible.
Roller rocker arms are installed already, still there are lots of sounds.
Maybe you have something more to advice, how to eliminate noises?

Thank you
Laimonas (Lithuania)


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Good Afternoon Laimonas,

Thank you for your inquiry. Yes, JIMS offer 3 styles of Tappets. Hydraulic, Hydrosolids and Solids. Each tappet is used for different riding styles and situations. Both the Solids and Hydrosolids are generally noisier than a hydraulic tappet. The Hydraulic tappet that would be most likely used on your valve train is the Powerglide II (JIMS Part No. 1807).

Depending on what you have going on with your Valve train, will determine if changing your tappets will be able to quiet it down. Here are some common things that may cause valve train noise.

1. The most common being the clearance between cam gear and pinion gear (referred to as gear lash). If you did not change the cam at the time of upgrades and had no gear lash but a slight whine when motor was cold, it is safe to say you are OK in this area.

2. Rocker arm end play at .004" to .010" is good.

3. Oil pressure at normal operating temperature about 2000 RPM should be 12-35 p.s.i. on Big Twin models, and 10-17 p.s.i. at 2500 RPM on Sportster® models.

4. Check valve to guide clearance.

5. Some Cams with fast ramps.

I hope you find this information helpful.

Thank You,
Margot Durham
JIMS
Ph. 805-482-6913
Web: www.jimsusa.com
E-mail: sales @jimsusa.com

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Hello again, Mr. Denise, thank you for answering.
I hope I'm not taking too much of your time.

Could you tell me more when each type of lifters is used.
What are mechanical differences? Maybe you know any articles about this?
You could simply give me a link.

You have written lots info about engine parameters, but this kit is installed on a completely new engine with 3000 miles on it. All performance parts installed are also new.
This kit includes.
Big bore cylinders with pistons 113"(case boring needed, stock flywheel)
Se performance heads.
SE 264 cams.
Perfect fit pushrods.
I want to think that I don't need to check Screamin Eagles quality.
Also when I know that many parts are manufactured by JIMS.

So additionaly we've bought rocker roller arms and thinking that tappet change ant adjustable pushrods would help. We don't want every possible horse power.
So is there a need in changing stock lifters to lets say hydraulic Jims lifters?

Or simply with this height cams forget about the quiet engine, and enjoy as it is?

Thank you again
Laimonas
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Good Afternoon Laimonas,

Thank you for your reply. Most of JIMS tappets will require adjustable pushrods. Please verify the style of pushrods prior to installation. The 3 styles of JIMS tappets are as follows:

Hydraulic: Hydraulic Tappets use oil as a cushion. Hydraulic tappets pump up as the engine warms up and These tappets require good oil flow and pressure to operate. They are the Top of the line replacement tappets for high performance engines. Hydraulic tappets have a .100" to .200" hydraulic travel. Hydraulic tappets also use oil pressure to lubricate and cool these tappets internally.

Solids: Solid Tappets are just like they sound, solid. They do not use oil internally. Solids are adjusted and tightened to a Zero Lash (no up and down movement) and tightened to these specs. These tappets are good for use with engines that need to have exact specs as far as lift and travel. They are also used on older engines that have external oiling. These tappets require maintenance every 2000 miles. Solid tappets may be noisy if not adjusted properly.

Hydrosolids: Hyrosolid Tappets are Hydraulics, but are adjusted like solids. Hydrosolids are Hydraulic until they reach about 5600 RPM and then they turn into solid. This means that at High RPM your tappets will not pump up allowing your valves extra lift and cause your valves to hit during high rpm riding. These tappets are a great way to increase horse power. JIMS Hydrosolids add 3-6 more useable horsepower in High RPM riding. Hydrosolids are adjusted and maintained like solids.
Best Regards,

Margot Durham
JIMS
Ph. 805-482-6913
Web: www.jimsusa.com
E-mail: sales @jimsusa.com
2009 Gegužės 4 19:06 Harleliuyah!!!
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#638    

...still there are lots of sounds..., tuoj sia aktualia tema i U2U kelsim :)
As kiek skaiciau pvz S&S remontines ismieras tappet'o siulo, atseit net del to spaudimas pasimeta....
OT, gal tepalo siurblio nasuma padidint iseina, kazkaip mastau kad tai gali itakot
2009 Gegužės 5 15:03 Suum cuique
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#639    

Siurbliai yra didesnio nasumo... mastau sau pasistatyt, tik gi brangu baisiai, paprastesnis Feuling apie 300$ sportinis 500... Pas tave jau turetu but sukomplektuota normaliai viskas.

Vat o as uzvakar karteri nubraukiau kiaurai :A daba nuiminet virint teks...
2009 Gegužės 6 09:44 Harleliuyah!!!
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#640    

Uzuojauta brolau... iki Memel Run susitvarkysi

Pas mane dar stovi spaudimo dacikas + tepalo temperaturos dacikas
Tappet'ai garsiai dirba ir pas mane...
2009 Gegužės 6 12:28 Suum cuique
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#641    

Seip zinok su gerais velenais greiciausiai kad labai kazko pritildyt ir neiseis, nes velenu kampas pakilimo statys gaunasi ir matomai momentais atsiranda laisvumu visokiausiu. Beje pas tave rockeriai su guoliukais ar paprasti?
2009 Gegužės 6 12:30 Harleliuyah!!!
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#642    

Taigi toki vaizda radau si ryta...

Vaizdelis is apacios...

O cia skaudziausia dalis :-(
 
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2009 Gegužės 6 13:41 Harleliuyah!!!
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#643    

butent ir as toki pati vaizdeli radau pernai sezona,ir po siai dienai nesuprantu is kur ir kaip galejo isteketi :-( tik mocas buvo kitas, suzuki gsf bandit 1200 s
2009 Gegužės 6 13:48
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#644    

Nu pas mane tai viskas aisq... bordiurai kalti :D
2009 Gegužės 6 13:53 Harleliuyah!!!
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#645    

kur karterį virint veši..?Atvešk į Ukmergę,turim čia tokį auksarankį.Tuo pačiu man konsultaciją suteiksi
2009 Gegužės 6 13:54
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#646    

Seip man salia darbo virina, tipo iseinu i kiema ir svarscikas, taip kad nelabai man apsimoka i ukmerge maut. I ukmerge seip galima prasukt :) daznai pasivazenadimi pravaziuojam...
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#647    

čirkštelėk kada važiuodamas...
2009 Gegužės 6 13:58
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#648    

Okay...
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#649    

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Seip zinok su gerais velenais greiciausiai kad labai kazko pritildyt ir neiseis, nes velenu kampas pakilimo statys gaunasi ir matomai momentais atsiranda laisvumu visokiausiu. Beje pas tave rockeriai su guoliukais ar paprasti?


Jau su guoliukais pas man, turetu siaip tyliau dirbt...
2009 Gegužės 6 15:25 Suum cuique
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#650    

Vilniui prie sportrumio prakirtai karteri?
2009 Gegužės 6 15:26 Suum cuique
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#651    

Principe sportrumis salia, ten rinktines gatvej arciau turgelio is kiemo tokio isvazinejau, ten seip status nuvaziavimas i kelia o krastuose dar pakyla i virsu, as arciau krasto vaziuodamas ziurejau i gatve o ne po ratais, lipau nuo bordiuro dar biski guldziau prie to paties vat ir pasiekiau kampuka...
2009 Gegužės 6 15:31 Harleliuyah!!!
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#652    

Pas evo, jau reiketu varikli skelt...
2009 Gegužės 6 15:46 Suum cuique
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#653    

Softeilui ne, o dyna man atrodo tas pats sh. karteris po greiciu deze.
2009 Gegužės 6 16:08 Harleliuyah!!!
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#654    

Dar ne taip ziauriai tada

Suvirinsi ir bus kaip naujas :)
2009 Gegužės 6 18:41 Suum cuique
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#655    

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Seip man salia darbo virina, tipo iseinu i kiema ir svarscikas, taip kad nelabai man apsimoka i ukmerge maut. I ukmerge seip galima prasukt :) daznai pasivazenadimi pravaziuojam...
o pas mane kodel neuzsuli? :)
2009 Gegužės 6 19:26
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#656    

denk stalą Alvydai-užsuksim... (+) (h)
2009 Gegužės 6 20:25
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#657    

Alvydai, galvojau m,es jau ir taip tave negyvai da**som :D
2009 Gegužės 6 23:05 Harleliuyah!!!
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#658    

as it turejau problema su tepalais
iskilo tepalo bakas prie suvirinimo siulies

isnaujo dengt matiniu chromu butu rezikinga tai pasidareu coveri
2009 Gegužės 7 06:44 Better to understand a little than to misunderstand a lot.
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#659    

Taigi bedos kaip ir issprestos :P

Ready to go :S
 
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2009 Gegužės 8 10:16 Harleliuyah!!!
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#660    

Cia tokio tiuningo is vokietijos parveze

Sviecia istikro nerealiai
 
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